Meeting Minutes of the
Oahu Metropolitan Planning Organization
POLICY COMMITTEE
Tuesday, February 18, 2003, 3:00 p.m.
City Council Committee Room
Room 205, Honolulu Hale, 530 South King Street, Honolulu, Hawaii
| Members Present: | |
| Councilmember Nestor Garcia, Chair | Representative Mark Moses |
| Senator Cal Kawamoto, Vice Chair | Representative Joseph Souki |
| Councilmember Romy Cachola | Senator Brian Kanno |
| Councilmember Donovan Dela Cruz | Senator Gordon Trimble |
| Councilmember Charles Djou | Rodney Haraga (DOT Director) |
| Councilmember Mike Gabbard | Cheryl Soon (DTS Director) |
| Representative Kirk Caldwell |
| Guests Present: | |
| Dennis Galolo (Councilmember Cachola) | Jonathan Young (FHWA) |
| Kim Ribellia (Councilmember Dela Cruz) | Eric Adams (HFD) |
| Rock Riggs (Councilmember Gabbard) | Bob Lung (HPD-Traffic) |
| Darrell Young (Councilmember Garcia) | Bryan Wauke (HPD-Traffic) |
| Ronald Tsuzuki (DOT-HWY) | Doug Aton (OCDA) |
| Glenn Yasui (DOT-HWY) | C.S. Papacostas (UH) |
| Darell Young (DOT-HWY) | John Sato (ASCE, CAC) |
| Robert Miyasaki (DOT-STP) | Landa Phelan (NFB, CAC) |
| David Shimokawa (DOT-STP) | Dennis Russak (NFB, CAC) |
| Ken Shirokane (DOT-STP) | Scott Hamilton (Waikiki NB #9, CAC) |
| Julia Tsumoto (DOT-STP) | Mike Leidemann (Honolulu Advertiser) |
| Brian Suzuki (DTS) | Jim Lyon (Lyon Associates) |
| Richelle Suzuki (FHWA) | Glen Fromm (Parsons Brinckerhoff) |
| Bruce Turner (FHWA) | Kevin Wong (PB) |
| Abraham Wong (FHWA) |
Staff Present: Gordon Lum, Shevaun Low, Lori
Arakaki, Laureen Brennan, Michelle Kurisu, and Pamela Toyooka
Acting Chair Cal Kawamoto called the meeting to order at 3:05
p.m. A quorum was present.
I. ELECTION OF FY 2003 POLICY COMMITTEE CHAIR
Councilmember Donovan Dela Cruz nominated Councilmember
Nestor Garcia for the office of FY 2003 Policy Committee Chair.
Councilmember Romy Cachola seconded the nomination. Councilmember
Dela Cruz moved that the nomination be closed. The motion was
seconded. Councilmember Garcia was unanimously elected Chair.
Councilmember Garcia took the Chair's seat and asked the members
to introduce themselves.
II. MINUTES OF THE OCTOBER 25, 2002 MEETING
Vice Chair Kawamoto moved and Councilmember Charles Djou
seconded that the minutes of the October 25, 2002 meeting be
adopted as read. The motion was unanimously approved.
III. FY 2003 OWP AMENDMENT
Handouts:
· Work Element 201.31-03 Regional Traffic Management Center
(RTMC)
· RTMC Concept of Operations Request for Qualifications
Selection Criteria
Gordon Lum, OMPO Executive Director, went over the proposed OWP
amendment - W.E. 201.31-03 RTMC. Mr. Lum noted that: 1) the OMPO
Technical Advisory Committee (TAC) had discussed the amendment at
their meeting today (their recommendations are highlighted in the
revised W.E. document); and 2) one public comment was received
from the Ewa Neighborhood Board (NB) #23. The Ewa NB stated that
they were opposed to the work element; they felt that the money
could be better spent on needed roadways.
After identifying potential components to the RTMC, costs for the
study, and RTMC pros and cons, Mr. Lum asked the Policy Committee
to approve the W.E. based on the TAC recommendation.
[Representative Joseph Souki arrived at 3:15 p.m.]
Chair Garcia asked if anyone wanted to testify. No one testified.
Vice Chair Kawamoto asked Glenn Yasui, DOT Highways Division
Administrator, to provide the Policy Committee with background
information about the existing traffic operations and the
benefits other areas have experienced because of RTMCs. Mr. Yasui
stated that the work element would study the benefits and impacts
of a joint system. On Oahu, there are two TMCs. The City Traffic
Control Center (TCC) controls the traffic signals on arterial
streets; and the State's H-3 TMC controls the incident management
system on the freeways. The State's system at H-3 runs 24 hours a
day, 7 days a week (24/7). The City has plans to upgrade its
system to 24/7 in the future. The average driver does not
distinguish between City and State jurisdictions. An RTMC would
combine the City and State operations; and economies of scale
could be realized.
In response to Policy Committee members' questions (in italics),
Mr. Yasui had the following responses:
Cheryl Soon, City Department of Transportation Services (DTS)
Director, stated that the City operates two existing facilities
(TCC and Emergency Operations Center). Ms. Soon stated that the
proposed RTMC will duplicate the efforts of these two facilities.
The communication between the existing City and State facilities
could take place electronically. The monies could be used for
other projects.
In response to a question from Vice Chair Kawamoto, Mr. Yasui
stated that, if the RTMC was constructed, the federal dollars
could be from existing federal sources or through discretionary
funding sources such as an ITS earmark. He noted that if the RTMC
receives earmark money, it would have to be deployable in a
certain period of time.
Chair Garcia passed out testimony signed by agency heads from
DTS, Honolulu Emergency Services Department, Honolulu Fire
Department (HFD), Honolulu Police Department, and Oahu Civil
Defense Agency. This testimony requested that action on this work
element be deferred for at least 60 days, so that the agencies
could have time to review the matter.
Ms. Soon stated that the wording of the work element caused
concern because: 1) it is not for a feasibility study, but rather
for a concept of operations, with a centralized TMC as a
conclusion; 2) the original version had State DOT running the
RTMC; and 3) the development of the work element was not done in
coordination with those City agencies that signed the testimony.
The agencies want to meet and discuss this matter before the
Policy Committee acts on the work element. Ms. Soon also stated
that other models (e.g., distributed TMCs) have the same level of
communication without being an RTMC.
Councilmember Cachola asked the following questions:
Representative Moses' asked what effect a 60-day delay of the
decision would have. Vice Chair Kawamoto asked Abraham Wong,
Hawaii Division Administrator for the Federal Highway
Administration (FHWA), to answer that question. Mr. Wong
responded that it is important that Intelligent Transportation
System (ITS) efforts progress. FHWA promotes ITS efforts moving
forward; however, it is not mandating it. If the 60 days can be
used to refine or contribute to the matter, then that is good.
In response to Vice Chair Kawamoto's question of whether FHWA
supports an RTMC, Mr. Wong stated that different models exist -
centralized and distributed. It is not FHWA's role to say what is
best for Oahu. Rather, the City and State need to find out what
is the best for the region through consideration of details. Mr.
Wong said that it was difficult to say whether delaying a
decision for 60 days would have an impact on securing federal
funding. He noted that ITS funds are highly sought after.
Ms. Soon stated that an RTMC is not equivalent to ITS. To not
move forward today on the RTMC does not mean that ITS is
stopping. OMPO's ITS consultant is now working on the ITS
Regional Architecture (RA). It is due in two years (2005), so
OMPO's effort to establish the ITS RA meet the deadline.
Ms. Soon stated that one of the reasons the City is uncomfortable
with the RTMC is that the purpose of the Federally-sponsored
scanning tour was to look at Freeway Service Patrol operations;
however, in addition to observing Freeway Service Patrol
operations, the participants looked at centralized TMCs. If the
scanning tour was about TMCs, then the participants should have
also been exposed to distributed TMCs. The consideration of a
distributed TMC and the various methods to communicate (such as
digital or fiber optics) were not discussed when the work element
was written.
Ms. Soon also pointed out that the agencies that signed the
testimony were not a part of the development of the work element
and, in her opinion, they had no say in the matter.
Councilmember Djou asked if Oahu was in jeopardy of losing
federal funds if action on the W.E. were delayed 60 days. Mr.
Wong said that there are several places in the country that have
an RA in place. There is no guarantee that the federal dollars
will always be there.
Vice Chair Kawamoto asked Eric Adams, HFD Battalion Chief, to
give his opinion about an RTMC because he participated on the
scanning tour. Mr. Adams stated that HFD Chief Attilio Leonardi
was leaning towards not implementing an RTMC because it is
redundant to the existing TCC. Mr. Adams stated that, personally,
he felt an RTMC would more than serve HFD's purposes. Other areas
that were visited as part of the scanning tour also utilized
their TMC as an Emergency Operating Center. The Honolulu EOC is
sufficient with the recently upgraded communications and
technology enhancements. As such, a distributed center would
better suit the HFD's needs.
In response to Representative Souki's question regarding federal
funding, Mr. Wong stated that, the federal funds that are in
question are not highway funds but rather earmark or
discretionary funds. In order to get these types of federal
funds, a proposal is required. Lacking a specific proposal, a
project, such as the proposed OWP work element, is the first step
toward a project proposal. Once that is done, the project needs
to be designed and ready-to-go. To implement the project that's
ready-to-go, the region can choose to use either apportioned
funds or discretionary funds. The federal highway funds, or
formula funds, can be used for the construction of an RTMC.
Discretionary funds can also be used for specific ITS
improvements; States must compete for these funds on a national
level.
Councilmember Djou moved that action on the OWP amendment
be deferred until the April Policy Committee meeting.
Chair Garcia agreed with Representative Moses' statement that, if
action on the amendment is deferred, then the 60 days should be
used wisely to discuss the matter. In deferring action on this
agenda item, Chair Garcia requested the following actions:
o By establishing an RMTC:
o Determine if the State DOT is willing and able to sit in the City's TCC.
o Determine whether the State DOT will cover the local share of the proposed RTMC.
Rodney Haraga, State DOT Director, stated that too much time
is spent on studying things. He has seen the system work in Los
Angeles. He suggested that, if this is important enough, then
discussions and revisions to the work element can be done in 15
to 30 days.
Councilmember Cachola stated that the City and State need to
determine their priorities. He questioned whether the system
needed to be upgraded. If upgrading is not required, then the
money should not be spent.
Vice Chair Kawamoto stated that, if discretionary funds are not
available, then the RTMC will not be built. He would not use
highway funds for this project.
Ms. Soon stated that Oahu already has a TMC; it has incident
management and traveler information. ITS is already happening
now. This work element is looking at having a new RTMC
constructed. Other agencies need to have a hand in writing the
work element.
Vice Chair Kawamoto agreed that we have a TMC. However, when
there is a traffic accident, there is still a problem with
clearing the scene quickly and getting traffic moving. An RTMC
would enhance incident management and improve commuter traffic.
Representative Souki asked that, as a compromise, the motion be
amended to defer action for one month. Ms. Soon stated that the
City is in the middle of their Capital Improvement Program (CIP)
budget hearings, so 30 days may not provide enough time for the
agencies to get together.
Councilmember Djou amended his motion to defer action on the
OWP amendment for one month, to give the signatory agencies time
to review and discuss the work element. Representative Mark Moses
seconded the amended motion. The motion was unanimously approved.
[Representative Kirk Caldwell arrived at 4:15 p.m.]
VI. CONSULTANT SELECTION PROCEDURES
Handouts: OMPO Consultant Selection Procedures
Mr. Lum went over the proposed consultant selection procedures.
He noted that the phrase "at least" was inadvertently
left out of the second sentence in item number three. The
sentence should read "The Screening Committee will provide
the Policy Committee with a list of at least three consultants
that
." Mr. Lum stated that Policy Committee action
would formalize the procedures to be used by the Policy Committee
for all future consultant selections.
Representative Moses moved and Councilmember Djou seconded
that the OMPO Consultant Selection Procedures be approved as
corrected. The motion was unanimously approved.
V. CAC MEMBERSHIP REQUEST
John Sato, OMPO Citizen Advisory Committee (CAC) Chair, stated
that the National Federal of the Blind (NFB) had attended the
required number of meetings to qualify for CAC membership. The
NFB had submitted a letter to OMPO requesting membership on the
CAC.
Landa Phelan of the NFB stated that it was important that the
blind community be involved at the early stages of project
development. People who are blind would know best about
accessibility issues. Dennis Russak of the NFB stated that he
concurred with Ms. Phelan that the blind community needs to very
involved and proactive.
Vice Chair Kawamoto moved and Councilmember Mike Gabbard
seconded that the NFB be appointed to the OMPO CAC. The motion
was unanimously approved.
VI. TIP EVALUATION CRITERIA
Handouts:
· Project Evaluation Criteria for Roadway Projects in the
Transportation Improvement Program
· Sample of a project evaluation
Mr. Lum went over the Project Evaluation Criteria for Roadway
Projects in the Oahu Transportation Improvement Program. Mr. Lum
noted that, prior to these Criteria, the Policy Committee was
only given the basic information, such as project descriptions
and costs. The criteria will provide more technical justification
of why a TIP project is being proposed. Mr. Lum asked the Policy
Committee if the information provided in the Criteria would be
helpful. He also asked if any other information would be helpful
to the Policy Committee.
In response to Chair Garcia, Mr. Lum stated that comments should
be submitted in the next couple of months. Chair Garcia asked the
members to forward any comments on the Criteria to the OMPO staff
within the next couple of months.
VII. OTHER BUSINESS
Representative Moses stated that he still had questions about the
Kalaeloa Community Association (KCA), and had not received
answers to his questions - including when KCA holds its meetings
and a list of its membership. Mr. Lum stated that OMPO did
receive Representative Moses' request and did speak with the KCA
representative at length, but was unable to obtain answer for all
of Representative Moses' questions.
Mr. Moses stated that he had also asked Mr. Sato about the KCA.
Mr. Sato stated that he knows who the KCA representative is,
since she attends the CAC meetings, but does not know if the
organization has meetings.
Chair Garcia asked that Representative Moses, Mr. Lum, and Mr.
Sato get together and resolve this issue.
There being no other business, the meeting was adjourned at
4:38 p.m.